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Is ASP.net meant for proffessional use?

The more I know about ASP.net the less it can.


I have a lot of questions and I put them on different forums but on no forum I get an answer that makes it work.

Like this:

http://forums.asp.net/p/1604435/4089219.aspx#4089219
http://forums.asp.net/p/1606096/4096526.aspx#4096526
http://forums.asp.net/p/1278244/4084285.aspx#4084285
http://forums.asp.net/p/1600355/4072330.aspx#4072330

http://forums.asp.net/p/1604435/4089219.aspx#4089219

http://forums.asp.net/p/1606096/4096526.aspx#4096526

http://forums.asp.net/p/1278244/4084285.aspx#4084285

http://forums.asp.net/p/1600355/4072330.aspx#4072330


What is your opinion?

 

21 Answers Found

 

Answer 1

I'm not sure if you are seriously asking whether ASP.NET is for professional use or whether you are just trying to get attention for your unresolved questions. Since there are massive sites built with ASP.NET, and those people who are proficient with the technology are in high demand, I shall assume you just want to get some answers to your outstanding issues.

If you really want help with your questions, follow some simple rules:

1. Don't post them in other people's threads (Slideshow question)
2. Try to keep to one issue per thread (FormView question which turned into an Ajax Editor question)
3. If English is not your first language, use the Google Language Tools or similar to try to get a translation from your native language. (I lost track of what you are asking in the AJAX Editor thread...)
4. Provide more detail or context about what the issue is (MySQL column question)



 

Answer 2

RPA Solutions:
What is your opinion?

The fact you did not receive any answer  does not mean that ASP.NET is not used for "proffessional use"

Besides, did you consider that is the way you put questions  can be one of the reason that is not answered well ?

Let's take first http://forums.asp.net/p/1604435/4089219.aspx#4089219 

RPA Solutions:

But whatever I do, I stuck with filling up the formview and get the right data.[...]

But what doesn't work  is that when somebody has filled in his profil and useraccount is to go back to his profile data.

I have use the following code:

FormView1.ChangeMode(FormViewMode.ReadOnly);
            FormView1.DefaultMode = FormViewMode.ReadOnly;

FormView1.ChangeMode(FormViewMode.ReadOnly);

FormView1.DefaultMode = FormViewMode.ReadOnly;

What are the options to change mode and what do I have to do to fill the textboxes to see the data in read only mode?

So basically you have 3 questions : right data, change mode, textboxes in read only

Let's take second :

http://forums.asp.net/p/1606096/4096526.aspx#4096526

RPA Solutions:

I have a AJAX editor and I want to put  the HTML content in a database and I want to get the HTML data from the database to put in the HTML editor, in HTML mode.

Maybe you refer to http://www.asp.net/ajax/ajaxcontroltoolkit/Samples/HTMLEditor/HTMLEditor.aspx - but is not clear from "I have a AJAX editor"...

More, for the example, you did not specify what happens if you use another ActiveModeType

Let's take the third example      no time for that !

So basically it needs an effort to read texts. Here we are not paid to answer - it is just good will. And if I encounter soemthing difficult to read  - I get over. There are more questions that my time and I prefer people that I understand the question - because it will improve for me the chances that they understand my answer( English is not my native language)

I hope you do not take personally * but as a way to improve things for both of us.




 

Answer 3

I started this thread first of all that I really think that ASP.net has his limitations. I know that there are a lot  of sites that are built in ASP.net. But I think that for the "hard" stuff commercial controls are used.


What I wanted to know is the opinion  about the limitations of standard controls.

Second it's handy that I put  my open questions  here again ;-)


But seriously, I really think, if you want to do difficult stuff with ASP.net standard controls they aren't good enough and you need to built around or buy commercial stuff.


What I want to know is the opinion of other ASP.net users/programmers etc..


and those people who are proficient with the technology are in high demand,


In my country they are in low demand (The Netherlands).

I agree that the reason that my questions aren't answered is because of my writing, I'm going to take a look at this and will ask 1 thing at a time.

I don't use google because if I translate something to my language the sentences are really weird.

I have read a lot of the WROX books, but in none are my questions answerd. Even the ones who begins with "Prof", so I did a lot of research before I asked my qustion.


 

Answer 4

RPA Solutions:
t I really think that ASP.net has his limitations.

try ASP.NET MVC. There you are limited by your HTML ;-)

 

Answer 5

All the standard controls are capable of doing what you want them to once you know how. "Professional" controls (Telerik, Infragistics etc) are simply adaptations built on the existing control base classes.

RPA Solutions:
In my country they are in low demand (The Netherlands).

Really??!?

But in the end, I agree with Andrei. My preference is for MVC too.


 

Answer 6

RPA Solutions:

But I think that for the "hard" stuff commercial controls are used.


What I wanted to know is the opinion  about the limitations of standard controls.

It all depands on what you see as the "hard" stuff? I don't see anything "hard" in your question, I just see questions  from someone who's trying to do things without understanding the basics. Maybe you should start learning things from the beginning?

RPA Solutions:

and those people who are proficient with the technology are in high demand,


In my country they are in low demand (The Netherlands).

 

Really? It's not hard to guess where I live, and I think different. But it's experienced developers that they're looking for, but very hard to get!

RPA Solutions:
I don't use google b

That's obvious, but you should. Not in the first place to translate a question you want to ask, but try to find the answer  without asking questions. And maybe you start watching some video's on this site, and read some tutorials

 

Answer 7

It is normal for companies to ask for experienced ASP.NET developers because most of the time they have a project they want to start on immediatly but don't let this discourage you because in practice they create teams consisting of a mixtures of expertises. In a team of 8 there will be an expert, 3 senior, 2 average and 2 junior developers although they explicitly demanded 8 "experts".

When you are building websites the ultimate goal is to spit out html, you can open Notepad and start typing but your customer will not like it because this will be timeconsuming and the website is not going to be dynamic. So you need to choose an environment for quickly building maintainable, dynamic business applications that run on the web. We have one of the best, if not best, development environment to do exactly that.

If you are new to ASP.NET, agreed, it comes with a high learning curve but there are so many books available on the market even in Dutch. Go through at least one from front cover to back cover and do not skip the exercises. Beside that you will notice that there is a big community on the web with s lot  of blogs, forums, newsgroups ...

If you have specific questions  just ask but don't expect an answer  within 5 minutes, we are coders just like you, trying to help eachother and some of us even have lives beside the forum  :-)

 

Answer 8

RPA Solutions:
I have read a lot  of the WROX books, but in none are my questions  answerd.
 

Besides reading books you need to consult MSDN. I agree that a book can not answer  your all answers, and that is good becuse you are then forced to search/find your path.

When you are stuck, please post your question here (not that you get your answers always but the clue is important so you can search yourself).

I'm learning it this way and it keeps me live!

 

 

Answer 9

I just see questions  from someone who's trying to do things without understanding the basics. Maybe you should start learning things from the beginning? 

I don't know why you think this but this is not true.

 Really? It's not hard to guess where I live, and I think different. But it's experienced developers that they're looking for, but very hard to get!

Take a look at freelance.nl, there 're only 4 projects and if you see how many people react, the only conclusion I can make is that the demand is very low.

 That's obvious, but you should. Not in the first place to translate a question you want to ask, but try to find the answer  without asking questions. And maybe you start watching some video's on this site, and read some tutorials

I search/surfed a lot  on google and I also didn't find the answers I'm looking for.

For example my question about the standard AJAX HTMLEditor (downloaded from here: http://www.asp.net/ajaxlibrary/act.ashx) and the use of the HTML content. I have read a lot, also on google, but nowhere I can find the answer how to get your HTML from a database into the HTMLContentpage of the editor, the only thing I can find is to get your HTML to the designmode content and that isn't what you want because you get HTML from your database translated to HTML in the editor. So you have HTML in HTML. So you can't see I have to use google more because you don't know what I have already done.


I'm going to take a look at MVC.


And because of your reactions I can make the conclusion that all you think that the standard controls don't have any limmitations, without re-program them?


 

Answer 10

RPA Solutions:
And because of your reactions I can make the conclusion that all you think that the standard controls don't have any limmitations, without re-program them?

I am a developer/programmer from 1997. In all that time I have not used more than 3 third party controls at work. MS controls + reporting with Office it was enough.

 

Answer 11

RPA Solutions:
Take a look at freelance.nl, there 're only 4 projects and if you see how many people react, the only conclusion I can make is that the demand is very low.
 

So if on 1 website you don't find many projects, this is your conclusion....

RPA Solutions:

And because of your reactions I can make the conclusion that all you think that the standard controls don't have any limmitations, without re-program them?

It depands on what you consider to be limitations? I think what you're saying is that the controls are not doing things out of the box what you want them to do, but that doesn't mean you can't make them work  how you want (or create one from scratch). That's one of the reasons third party controls exists. People needed other functionality and created controls, and then thought, well maybe someone else could use this also. Some do this for free (open source controls), other do this for a living. It is up to you, either put  a lot  of work in creating things yourself, or find (free or not) a control that is already been build, saving you a lot of time.

RPA Solutions:
For example my question about the standard AJAX HTMLEditor (downloaded from here: http://www.asp.net/ajaxlibrary/act.ashx) and the use of the HTML content. I have read a lot, also on google, but nowhere I can find the answer  how to get your HTML from a database into the HTMLContentpage of the editor, the only thing I can find is to get your HTML to the designmode content and that isn't what you want because you get HTML from your database translated to HTML in the editor. So you have HTML in HTML. So you can't see I have to use google more because you don't know what I have already done.

I can't comment on this because I never used it, because you can find many other Editors (free or paid) that look much better than this one.

 

 

Answer 12

Mikesdotnetting:

 (I lost track of what you are asking in the AJAX Editor thread...)


I have read this thread again and I think I just put  the right words here? Where did you loose it?


 

Answer 13

hans_v:

So if on 1 website you don't find many projects, this is your conclusion....

No this is one example. Ask any intermediare and they tell you that ASP.net isn't that hot for freelancers. PHP and JAVA is really hot.

And don't forget that freelance.nl shows a lot  of projects. But if you need another example try jobstream.nl or freelancer.nu (a lot of outdated project are shown) and you will see no projects or maybe 1 or 2 at the most.


 

Answer 14

Maybe the Netherlands is different, but here in the UK the demand for java developers and asp.net developers is similar.


Try changing the search term you are using on job boards from asp.net. For instance, I work  with C# so I will search for C# jobs and manually skip over winforms development opportunities. Not all adverts will mention asp.net, some may mention webforms, mvc or just asp  instead.



 

Answer 15

Believe me I searched and look for anything that has to do with ASP.net. Even my friend who a lot  're intermediares are telling me that ASP.net is in low demand, PHP and JAVA is hot.

 

Answer 16

Well this is not the place to start a discussion about that but I live in Belgium and as you live in the Netherlands you know that we are neighbours and I find that claim very hard to believe. Nevertheless this attitude will get you nowhere so you should stop what you are doing immediatly and pick up some books on PHP or Ruby on Rails or some other technology for web development.

 

Answer 17

gabriel.lozano-moran:
Nevertheless this attitude will get you nowhere so you should stop what you are doing immediatly

+1


 

Answer 18

stop what you are doing immediatly and pick up some books on PHP or Ruby on Rails or some other technology for web development

Why? I want to use ASP.net and nothing else.

In the process of learning ASP.net I see, what I think, some limitations in the standard controls and that's why I started this topic.

I want to know what other people think of this. But instead of having a nice discussion about it people are telling me what to do? Why? Is it that hard to discus about?

 

Answer 19

The first thing to start with is a positive attitude, if you don't have that how do you expect to learn anything from ASP.NET? All you see right now is the negative side. Yes there is room for improvement and there always will be. But so will PHP developers think about their environment and the same feeling will Ruby on Rails developers have or J2EE developers. There will always be room for improvement. But we have the framework, we have the tools, we have the extension points, we have the controls to work  with. If something does not work out of the box or off the shelve as we call it, we either look on the market for 3rd party controls or we have to build them ourselves, that is just how it works. 

 

Answer 20

we either look on the market for 3rd party controls or we have to build them ourselves, that is just how it works.

And this is exactly what I want to know.

 

Answer 21

>Is ASP.net meant  for professional use?

Yes! 

 
 
 

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