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MCITP vs. MCSE

First off, I haven't been around in a while and the forum upgrade looks great!! Anyway, I completed my MCITP for both Enterprise and Server Administrator. I also have my MCSE and other certifications. MY question is, has anyone benefitted from having their MCITP?? In my case, most don't seem to know it exists and seem to hold my MCSE in higher regard.

A secondary comment is that sadly, the best benefit to me having my MCSE 2000 is that it proves I have 10 years in the game since my MCSE completion date and trascript reflect my completion of exams back in 2000-2001. Other than that, the irony is in 1998 I received more kudos for my MCP when the salaries went nuts in the NT days.

I hope Microsoft will start informing the I.T. world that the MCITP is replacing the MCSE as their premiere certification as nobody in the I.T. field seems to have gotten that message. With the economy the way it is and people losing jobs left and right, it would be nice if Microsoft could help us increase our income and status by advertising and informing people.

Thanks alot and take care, 
Christopher Tenzycki,
MCITP: Enterprise Administrator, Server Administrator
MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory, Configuring; Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure, Configuring; Windows Server 2008 Applications Infrastructure, Configuring; Deploying and Maintaining Windows Vista Client and 2007 Microsoft Office System Desktops; Windows Vista, Configuring
MCSE: Windows 2000
MCDBA: SQL Server 2000
MCP, A+, Network+
 

4 Answers Found

 

Answer 1

I have to disagree with you on this one. Microsoft cannot save the world - or the economy. Nor is it their responsibility to increase our incomes. Some where in this world, we have to do things ourselves and take responsibilities on our own.

As far as Human Resources departments and their lack of knowledge of certifications, this again isn't Microsoft's problem. They heard someone mention that they need an MCSE and so they place an add for it without even knowing what an MCSE does. I have seen MCSE hired to repair computers. Why? Two reasons: 1.) Lack of knowledge. 2.) They don't care to know.

Certifications have no benefits by themselves. Just ask all those employers how forked out ungodly amount of salaries for those "paper MCSEs". You have to prove yourself now. You have to sell yourself and your proficiency now. You have to show a history working with the technology now. Not just a piece of paper. And this, my friend, is what makes certification beneficial.
Michael D. Alligood,
MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician, Consumer Support Technician
MCTS: Windows Vista - Configuration,
MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+, Network+

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Answer 2

I've been quite a busy man, however I wanted to answer your question. The fact still currently remains; Microsoft did a better job of speading the word when it came to the MCSE and didn't put the same force behind the MCITP. Since my initial message, awareness of the MCITP and MCTS certifications has increased. The sad reality is that certification in general are not holding the high regard they once did in the 90's.

I remember people back in the 90's walking into $50K/year jobs in Manhattan with little real world experience as newly minted NT MCSE's. I believe some of the deflation in I.T. salaries was due to this, however, the end result is that Network Engineers are no longer commanding the salaries they once did.
 

Answer 3

I'm assuming Microsoft renamed the "MCSE" title "MCITP" based on this thread, and based on the fact i am trying to get the equivalent of and "MCSE in Server 2008 R2" if there is even such a thing.

If MCITP is the Vista/2008 equivalent of MCSE, just like WDS is the Vista/2008 equivalent of RIS why not just say "MCITP / MCSE  2008" on a resemue this way you pick up both the computerized attention for the keyword MCSE and the attention of the humanr resource rep to allow them to know the name has changed, simalar to hyphenating one's last name 

another question, one if my instructors told me that Microsoft will count a CompTIA A+ and Network+ twoard one of your electives on the MCSE, are they still doing this.

 

Answer 4

From Microsoft website:

Q.  Does MCSA equate to MCITP: Server Administrator and does MCSE equate to MCITP: Enterprise Administrator?

A.

No, not exactly. The mcitp  on Windows Server 2008 certification requires a new skill set—in some cases, a more robust one—that differs from the skill set needed for MCSA and MCSE certifications.

MCITP: Server Administrator certification covers more operations-related job skills than the MCSA certification.

MCITP: Enterprise Administrator maps to an actual job role profile, whereas the MCSE certification does not. The latter combines technology and job skills.

My personal opinion is to go for the Enterprise Administrator if you want the equivalent of MCSE on 2003. I have this myself and I felt like the study and exam process was most similar.

 
 
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